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Lord Soth

It also states that:

"Higher-resolution Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer-Earth Observing System (AMSR-E) data processed by the University of Bremen showed ice extent on September 5 as falling below the same date in 2007."

NSIDC is very much in the running for a minimun extent this year.

L. Hamilton

The time series of NSIDC August means are graphed alongside those by UB, CT and IJIS here:

r w Langford

L Hamilton; One graph is worth a thousand words.

A Facebook User

Always a little chilling, though, when a scientific summary mixes up Celsius and Fahrenheit.

Patrice Monroe Pustavrh

Air temperatures were 1 to 4 degrees Celsius (0.5 to 2 degrees Fahrenheit) higher than average (relative to the 1981 to 2010 climatology)
Sorry, but this is not good at all, I'd believe if they switch C to F... Lost in translation ?


They had already fixed it, but I hadn't yet. Fixed now. Thanks.

Air temperatures were 1 to 4 degrees Celsius (2 to 7 degrees Fahrenheit) higher than average

Andrew Xnn

Wonder if that was that the technical difficulty?


A facebook user - just count yourself lucky that we aren't teaching our kids the 3 Rs - Reamur, Roemer and Rankine !

I stated in my earlier blogs that in my opinion 2011 is likely to set a new low extent record. In my September blog I went for a new record minimum, giving reasons.
A new study of volume is just now making the headlines:
"... the 2010 September ice volume anomaly did in fact exceed the previous 2007 minimum by a large enough margin to establish a statistically significant new record."


Given that 2011 started with such a low volume, and that it has more-or-less caught up with the delayed start of melt which was due to extra cold temps over the western areas, I am confident that a new area record will be set as marked by both NSIDC and IJIS.

As I write this, the IJIS area is already the lowest ever for this day. The current rate of melt is such that it need only continue for 2 weeks to set the new record.

btw - the landfast ice has broken up now on both sides of Flade / Nord. As far as I know that is the first time that both areas have broken up at the same time.


Patrick - Is it possible that the ice normally bridging the outlet of Independence Fjord and Dansmark Fjord ie from Perry Land to Kronprins Christian Land, has been in place for some thousands of years?

I'm aware that the southern tip of Perry Land exhibits Quaternary cover and so must have been ice free, probably during the Holocene maximum, and also that Independence Fjord often melts, but the ice shelf to the east remained frozen at least in 2009 and 2010 leading me to speculate that it was quite aged.

Any help you an offer is appreciated


PIOMAS is now at a record low absolute volume (Big surprise....)

Kevin O'Neill

PIOMAS is out with a new graph and data through 8/31. The 8/31 volume is 4.275 kkm^3 -- already the lowest year on record with a few weeks of loss left. With losses typical for September this year should see a volume minimum under 4kkm^3.

The last 6 yearly volume minimums:

2006 8.993
2007 6.458
2008 7.072
2009 6.893
2010 4.428
2011 4.275 (and falling)

Maslowski's trend continues.

Paul Klemencic

NSIDC replied to my September 1st email, asking about updating problems, so I sent them a reply. We are likely to see some changes in the MASIE data.

NSIDC was nice enough to mention the MASIE site in their report, right after I suggested it in the September 1st email. I am beginning to think ice scientists win the "Best Customer Service Award" among climate scientists. Well, maybe even among all scientists.

Paul Klemencic

I did a blink comparison of today's final Bremen map versus the one for September 4 ( covering the 48-hour data collection period), and there was massive ice edge pullback in all regions, although the Laptev Bite was pinched.

IJIS should show a big extent loss. We will know in a few minutes.

Paul Klemencic

Only 41k loss on the preliminary IJIS... I can't predict these IJIS reports at all.
Well, at least the Bremen SIE data seems consistent with observations.


On the AMASIE graph, it's pretty clear that the 30 year straight line they use is not the best fit. A 15 year straight line would give a far steeper decline curve and match the recent data much better.

Are there any scientific reasons to choose the 30 year line over the 15, or is it just excessive caution?
Is there anyone here who thinks their 30 year trend would more accurately predict future melt than a 15 year trend line?

Personally, if I were betting I might go even steeper than the 15 year trend.


My updated August piomas graphs.

Daily ice volume:


Monthly mean trends:


Minimum yearly ice volume (that is in September) with the preliminary value for 2011 plotted:


H Barnard

Personally, if I were betting I might go even steeper than the 15 year trend

I think the oil companies are also betting on this. Seriously depressing news (though not 'new' news):



It dawned on me that the ice in the east greenland sea was consolidated by late fresh water run off, and snow?, last year. Which is why it's been so tenacious, similar to antarctic conditions?
Looking at the fram straight animation it seems to be melting from below then refreezing with more fresh water, given the 'right' local conditions it looks prone to a rapid melt/dispersion, in 2-3 days anytime in the next three weeks.

Seke Rob

Reading allot and the *courage* that we, humanity, will be addressing the global pollution problem, CO2 first, is for me at all time low. Obama just instructed the EPA to back off from pushing of of the regulations.

For now, the short and long YTD extent and Area average anomalies speak for themselves:

JAXA YTD Average Anomaly Chart

Only 2007 and 2011 are outside the 2003-2010 1 sigma.

And CT YTD Average Anomaly Chart (with fitted JAXA curve)

CT just updated added 2 days more data. flat on the 3.0 million sqkm area line. Melt water freezing... the whippets are tiring slowly... the rabbit is getting away, but the last 14 day average ending September 4 is winning:

2007: 3.068 million sqkm
2011: 3.059 million sqkm

Statistical, bare eye it's still photo-finish.


I must've refreshed that PIOMAS graph a 100 times yesterday, but had to go to bed at a certain point.

But anyway, here's the PIOMAS August 2011 post.

Seke Rob

Re: Paul Klemencic | September 07, 2011 at 04:59

Paul, re your mail, did they say to suspend MASIE updates as it's now the 4th day without chart or data updates.


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